it's a combination of bill clinton and eastwood. >> right. so you don't know -- i've watched it. you don't know when he walks in the room or takes the stage whether he is going to be eloquent or like you said half off the wall talking to an empty chair. but whatever it s people are going to be riveted and trying to figure out what it is he's doing. and he's clever enough to have picked up a phrase from the local newspaper or some other place and he has an enormous capacity to recall his -- almost every place he stops he can -- [ inaudible ] >> more than anybody else, he has d.n.a. of california in his bones. this guy who understands the state. and he goes around the state and is able to connect with all the others. >> what about the die familiar of california right now -- dynamic of california right now that has allowed him to set the agenda up there and with all the ambitious people in congress? it's because he has no competition. there's something to be said about age and experience. >> exactly. i think age has a lot to do with it. he's in his 70s so as far as his future for a